Since we have everyone here looking over comments on what we can do better, I would like to start us thinking in a different way as well. We have shown that we can heal a raid under difficult situations, now we need to all make suggestions on how we can work together as our targets are getting harder.
One of the things I have seen is all of the healers will heal the ma on a crawl through one groupable mobs. Some even heal prior to when they would heal if they were in the area with a group. The crawl through all the one group mobs is when we need to heal our groups, unless one of us gets agro and dies. Deaths in this portion of a raid are the easiest to avoid as a rule. Each death delays a raid a few minutes so avoiding them is good.
We all know complete heal rotations are one of the tools we use on some targets. Others we use spam heals as we heal our groups. Then we have some where a minimum number of healers do a cheal rotation, as we did for Ikky3, and everyone is asked to back up those healers with a fast heal if they can do so and keep their group alive. All methods of raid healing are tools we use for the particular target.
On some raids we need a designated rezzer, not Ikky3 however, or a healer who will watch over the health of the clerics. Again a tool we have available.
I personally have an issue with the hover after a death and if I do not get a rez in the first 20% of the bar go ld unless I go to bind. It is faster to use the hover option to get back with the raid so I wait as long as possible to return to bind. Cqishy does not have this problem but I have talked to several others that do. I stress when i do not get a fast rez as it weakens the raid when the healers go ld and are not there to heal.
So my point what do we need to do so that we usethe strong points of our healers to the best advantage? What would all of you like to see us do different that would make us more a team? On a raid we are a team and it isimportant to work as one.
To begin with, It seems we need to have a designated raid "rezzer". I know occasionally I wait for inordinate amounts of time to be rez'd. Granted there are going to be circumstances when it's not always possible to res. immediately, but we definitely need to do a better job of it. It's not often that we lose all of our clerics in a raid but in the event that we were to lose the designated rezzer, there should be a secondary assigned to fill in.
On several occasions I have observed Caeni waiting quite a while to be rez'd. When the clerics aren't rez'd that usually means there are many others who aren't as well.
We need to have our tanks and healers back in the battle as soon as possible.
The other issue I have observed is rebuffing after res. Many times I find myself asking repeatedly for buffs and not receiving them. To the point that Omegga has to say "Get the tanks rebuffed ASAP".
Recovery after partial wipes is a raid skill that needs to be developed and worked on just like any other aspect of raiding. I think by assigning someone res. responsibility it will help keep things moving forward.
I'm assuming, and maybe incorrectly, that the clerics who are on may be thinking that someone else is doing the res., and then it just doesn't happen at all without considerable time passing.
Just some thoughts from a little elf tank...... 
I must be lucky then, cause I usually get buffs pretty fast---once I send a tell to the buffing class. Sending a tell is the BEST way to receive a quick buff. The worse possible way to receive buffs if by using /RS and/or /kotgraid channels. Folks, I am pretty sure that using tells to request a buff is listed in the Kotg Raid section of this website (under proceedures) and if it isn't, it should definately be added.
There are two ways to find out the folks who are able to give you the buff you need. The first is a /who cleric (for cleric buffs)---but some of our guild clerics are on roleplay durring the raid.
The other way is to do an ALT R and it will pull up the raid window. Even if the person is on /role or even /annon, their class will appear by their name in the raid window.
EVERY raiding guild in EQ uses this method of asking for buffs (really stepping out on a limb on this statement since actually, I am not 100 percent sure of that----perhaps I should say "most") 
A designated "rezzer" would be a good idea---was never needed in AS or ES---but I do think it would speed things up a bit.
Yes, sometimes even with tells, buffs do take too long sometimes to receive, but lets not always assume it cause folks are slacking. Face it, Keepers has got to have the worse class distribution of raiders ever
Not saying this to be mean either. But most of the higher end raiding guilds are able to have 1 cleric per group and 1 Druid/Shaman per group on a raid. They at least have 4 Pallies and 4 SK's and at least 6 to 8 tanks.
They all have at least 4 plus Wizzies. And more then one Bard/Necro/Monk every raid.
Keepers is lucky to have 1 cleric per 2 groups, and perhaps a shaman/druid every 3 groups. Sometimes we lucky if we have more than 1 pally and I know we short on SKs (1) Wizzies (none that are not boxxed),
Monks (1) Necro's (ranging from none to too many) Warriors (1 - 4 on good nights). Well, you get the point. Even with level 75 and all, sometimes we have to adjust everything on a raid to beat an encounter with the non-traditional raiding force. Oh, and also meaning buffs will come slower since we don't have the traditional amount of "buffers" that most higher end guilds enjoy.
I will fully agree that we do start working more as a team cause with our limited resources on certain classes, we are going to have to work as a team or life will start to become really hard.
Just some of my observations.
Cykor
I use my raid window to quickly spot the different classes on a raid. I color code each class so they are easy to find on the list ie. tanks are red, clerics are green, shaman are blue, etc.
I also use direct tells for buffs. However, after receiving a res. during a raid, it's extremely difficult to get the attention of the buffers even with a direct tell, especially if there is still raid activity going on.
I made this suggestion at one point in the past, and i will make it again.
We should have a designated Rezzer, who's first job after a rez is a HoT and to offer a Tenacity.
Also we should have what is referred to as a designated buffer. Someone on the raid who's purpose is to buff the recently deceased, and help speed their way back into the fight.
One of each class, Shaman, Paladin(brells), Druids, Enchanter, and others as needed(i.e. rangers for GoTE etc), should be designated for this duty.
I have even volunteered to do this as i could do this in addition to the loot responsibilities, but it has never made it into the raid assignments.
Here is how it would work.
Start of raid, a volunteer from each required buff class would be requested. If no volunteeres for a class surfaced, one would be assigned.
Once all designated buffers are assigned, they are announced in the raid.
Here is the order of events for a death,
1) Cleric Rezzes, then hits toon with HoT so they do not get low health aggro.
2) Toon requests Symbol or Ten and Spell haste if needed from rezzing cleric IN A TELL.
3) Feeling slightly better and more alive, the toon requests the other buffs they need, AGAIN, IN TELLS, to the other designated buff classes.
4) Buffers throw only what is necessary to get the toon moving and reliable until the next designated full buff call, in the case of me, a shaman, i would throw dire, fort, tribunal, and foresight, keeping my other 5 spell gems loaded with combat and other necessary spells.
5) After a person has completed casting buffs, they inform the toon they are done as a courtsey.
6) if a rezzed toon desires a specific buff, they can request it at this point, that does not have to be done immeadiately.
7) freshly revived and buffed toon can now get back into the fight.
Now, Why tells you may ask. Tell windows are a wonderful thing, on a multiple death sceranio, the buffers may not have seen who all died.
A buffer should use "Tell Windows" as a method of keeping track of who has gotten buffed and who has not.
Once you buff someone, let them know you are finished, close the window, you are done.
Also, in a crowded room a tell is a wonderful way to easily target someone you need to buff. type /rt and you target the last person that sent you a tell. and you start buffs.
For this reason, after someone is buffed and told by the buffer they are done, thanks are UNNECESSARY, espically if you are trying to target the next person to be buffed.
Now comes the part that makes this difficult to implement, and what players responsibilities are.
1) Know what class casts what buff.
2) Request it in a tell
3) If you missed the raid leaders designations of who the buffers are, ask your group leader
4) Group leaders are responsible for letting their latecomers know who are the designated buffers
On my brief assignment to RoTF, that is what they did. It worked very well, and on occasion i would have someone completely rebuffed before they finished looting their corpse.
Again, just my 2 cp.
I too, Yorag, have noticed Caeni getting rezed close to last in raids, when she could be helping to rez others. We do need a designated person to rez, it's a waste of time to get two, which sometimes, although rarely, happens. I appreciate those who ask for buffs in tells, although I try to buff anyone who has died before they ask as a courtesy, esp if they are in my group. I know i dont' raid much, but is just my opinion.
On Ikky3 did you plan on the designated rezzer standing under the mobs that were summoning and killing us, or did you plan to leave them in the safe room not helping the raid? We did not have one healer per group for most of that raid. Another raid target a designated rezzer is a requirement. Each raid and raid target is different and we have to adapt to the target we face.
Designated rezzers are usually a luxury we do not have the healers to do. It is like the out dated strategy of camping a cleric. Before we began elemental raids we starting camping a druid or shaman as they might give us a chance of still winning a fight. If all the clerics camp, as usually happens then we give up all chance of winning and that is unacceptable most of the time.
In the past I have suggested we take Jadery and have her camp at the start of a difficult fight, I choose Jade as Ernezto would be raiding still and know better when to return. If another druid or shaman feels they should also camp when we get in trouble that is fine.
The biggest problem we have with rezzing people is that the clerics do not use the raid window so they do not get the other clerics rezzed and helping them rez as quickly as they could. We need to recover faster and rezzing is one of our biggest weaknesses.
When the clerics and buffers are the last ones rezzed we also have to wait for them to get mana so they can begin buffing people Thus delaying our recovery time and people get bored and leave the raid. If the clerics rez efficiently we could save 5 to 10 minutes recovery time each semi wipe. I would rather wait for a fully buffed warrior to regain endurance than an enchanter to get the mana to buff that warrior. That frequently is why buffing takes so long. We are very inefficient in how we rez people and that makes buffing and regaining our strength take at least twice as long.
On a semi wipe, I personally have been rezzed after pulls have begun again on more than one raid. Is efficient to have a buffless healer with rez effects responsible for healing one of our warriors? Since the cleric is the main I never accept a rez on Cqishy until I am rezzed as I am watching the screen on Caeni not Cqishy.
What we need to do is have the clerics work as a team not a few doing rezzes on the semi wipe. I never see where my group members die on a raid. I usually try to summon the corpse to me and rez it there. We need to work together better as we cannot get anywhere if we do not. I do not look at any target to come, I look at the fun and enjoyment of the game. It is not fun to sit watching your monitor knowing 90% of the raid has been rezzed and that the clerics or warriors are still sitting at bind waiting for rezzes. Especially when, as has happened too many timed, some buffers have started to mgb their buffs so that we do not get buffed.
At the start of the raid the raid leader says to begin buffs. On a semi wipe no buffs aside from self buffs should occur until all are rezzed. If that means the raid leader has to say buff again then he should do so.
I NEVER send tells for buffs as there is no time to do so. IT is ridiculas that after we wipe or semi wipe to expect people to do so. As with the start of a raid buffs should be done to all on the raid as though they just died and have rez effects.
If it takes 3 seconds to locate the toon that casts the buff you need and send them a tell, is that more important than the buffer who has to read kotgraid, kotgheal, raidsay, /gu, ooc, /say, AND tells, plus watch for every corpse that falls, gets a rez, to see who needs a buff? I am thinking that takes a lot longer than 3 seconds. More like 30 seconds.
It reminds me of people here at work that have humongus mail boxes that will eventually crash the system. "I do not have time to clean out my email" meanwhile expecting everyone else and their borther to jump through hoops for them. It will talke me much longer than a few minutes to repair the system after this upcoming crash(more likely 3 or 4 days), but as some of them are managers, i will have to clean up after them.
I am not talking about wipes or near wipes. I am talking about individual or small groups of deaths. If you do not need a buff enough to ask for it, you most likely will not get it.
If its a wipe or near wipe then well be doing a full rebuff and it should be the same as the start of raid buff. Tells should be sent when you need individual rebuffs or you were one or two that died. Everyone, no exceptions needs to get into this mode of sending tells. The /rt makes it much easier for the buffer to target you for buffs expecially in the middle of the fight where they may be doing other things.
As our other druids and shammys do, I use the AA corpse call ability. I often use it on clerics when I see them down, but have also used it on other players that have fallen when possible to help get them back in raid.
Its a useful ability, however it has a 10 min reuse timer on it.
As far as sending tells for rebuffs, I think it can be a good idea as it keeps two people from trying to cast the same thing. Auto buffs are also nice if we have a designated rezzer/rebuffer. Either venue would be easy to do.
The only hang up I can see is that if A) the designated rezzer or B) the designated buffer have died. But if that happens, comments can be made to let the raid know so that alternative rezzers or buffers can divert their attention to retrieve the dead.
As a general rule, the designated buffer/rezzer should never get aggro and die, unless they are going out of their way to annoy the mob.
Generally, when i was designated buffer in RoTF the only other spells i would cast were the occasional slow, as well as the occasional malos, oh, yea, and Canni.
Quote:If its a wipe or near wipe then well be doing a full rebuff and it should be the same as the start of raid buff. Tells should be sent when you need individual rebuffs or you were one or two that died. Everyone, no exceptions needs to get into this mode of sending tells. The /rt makes it much easier for the buffer to target you for buffs expecially in the middle of the fight where they may be doing other things.
Thank you Omegga, i wholeheartedly agree.
Where are the other clerics? We have a lot of them. WHY are they not here and joining in?
It would be great if other clerics actually cared enough to participate in this discussion.
CAENI (cleric), thank you for trying on this. and Thank you for trying to address these important issues.
I am contemplating, but have NOT as of yet, Making Tiairia my main for a while.
TIAIRIA, the Cleric
If we're fighting a raid mob with a 5 minute timer,
would it be more efficient to wait for the rezzed person to regain their mana before rebuffing them since a rezzed person has no test timer?
I've never compared the two but it seems like waiting for the 3 minute rez timer plus getting all my mana/end/hp back is quicker with the new rest system than getting a buff with a 5min timer attached and hoping regular old sitting down gets my mana back quickly enough.
I havent made any comment on this because its been talked about before and as far as im concerned there are too many variables to say who needs to be rezzed first. I always try to rez another cleric right away in case someone drags a mob back with the corpses and i get sent back to my bind spot again, but i also try to rez and buff a tank as soon as i see one too and a chanter/bard then some more rezzers. But all of that is just a good idea because most of it depends on who the rogues are able to get to and drag to the rezzers. As a cleric I find myself getting rezzed late most often when I was the last cleric left and i get summoned into the fray at the mobs feet (and as i get more mana and hp it happens more and more often that im the last cleric left ) so when you see caeni getting rezzed at the tail end of the rezzes its ussually because thats when her corpse gets there.
I think the designated rezzer and buffers have helped during the raids. You know who to request buffs from, and they have always been very responsive to me. It is difficult, however, if you are the designated rezzer and buffer, and you are also the only healer in your group. I have had players in my group die when I am in the middle of casting a rez. As many have said before, we need more clerics and shammy/druids in our raids.
After a mass destruction, I normally try to rez the other clerics as soon as I can, but that is assuming: 1) I know they have died (a tell in kotgheal, raid, or kotgraid) and/or 2) I can see or target their corpse. After rezzing the clerics, I try to rez the other corpses as fast as possible.
It saves time if the clerics announce the rezzes in kotgheal. Otherwise, we end up recasting rezzes on slow zoners when we could be rezzing someone getting ready to head to their bind point.
I believe that requests for buffs should be made in tells. Otherwise we waste time and mana. My cast may override someone elses buff and visa versa. If someone doesn't respond to a buff request after a few minutes (because they miss the tell or are afk), I just send a tell to another buffer.
EQ is like life - it is a journey. I believe we are getting better and stronger as a guild. If we continue to learn and work together, we will continue to do so.
Ribbitta
I am just catching up on my forums, and the thing I dont see but one mention of is the corpse retrievers, the rogues and necros. As a rogue it took me a while to know when I needed to get a corpse because I tended to be out side the circle. After a while we developed our own channel to communicate what was needed. At least among the rogues.
Fiache Dragonheart
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Lady Faadena Wolvesheart (retired)
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