Ok as of Friday 157 in tinkering hopefully will be 180 by the end of the Thanksgiving weekend. Now I have mentioned this too others before the fermentation geerlok im doing will take me too 215 in tinkering but beyond that tinkering becomes very expensive (foot warming boots cost about 191 pp a pop i believe and they only take me too 235 in skill) and I dont know if ill be able too afford it too get too 250 quickly. However there is a cheaper method of getting too 242 and thats too make collapsible items like fletching kits and sewing kits etc... and so forth collapsible toolkits can take me too 242 and from there only 8 points too 250 woot. The problem with collapsibles though is that they require a POI drop (the rest of the components can be bought) this drop is of course the coiled spring. Now I would really appreciate any and all coiled springs anyone has or gets from POI. This item would greatly accelerate my drive for grandmastery in tinkering and allow me too do so rather cheaply so I would appreciate any help with this that I could get. (Renumeration would of course come in the form of the Cam combines for all our guildies as well as the ability too make rebreathers cheaply and quickly for our warriors and whomever else wanted a item with unlimited charges of enduring breath additionally tinkers make gnomish vanishing devices and geerloks and other decent items which can aid in tradeskills as well as giving your characters abilities limited too hard too get drops. Thanks in advance everyone for all your help Kythkin the soon too be grandmaster Tinkerer (and all around yutz) lol.