After about 50 LDoN groups with the last 10 or so being hards, I am coming to the conclusion that LDoN is the small guilds alternative to the higher elemental planes. Looking at the ornate armor and then comparing it to the high end high AP items in LDoN, they are highly comparable. PoT stuff is still just god awlful but in general the LDoN stuff is comparable to the ornate items.
Now the Keepers are turnig a corner and are in a place that I have not seen them in since before the "first split". We are actually getting to the "mid sized" family guild range, and between the quantity and quality of players the options available to us will only increase as long as things remain as they are and folks do not burn out. The good thing is that the Guildleader, Bim, has just taken up the mantle of leadership and is not close to being frustrated or drained by the burden.
As we have proven over the last few weeks, we can do things "they" say we should not be able to do, like in PoS with the mini bosses and only one cleric over lvl 60... we tried and we were triumphant. I know we as a guild can do alot more of these kinds of things.
The other week in ToV we did really well and I hope there are plans for us to return there sooner than later. Also, it would really be nice to have some coordination for some hard LDoNs and for those with the desire to explore GoD, something along that line as well(me I will wait a week or two before I get GoD).
Although I can dream of a day when KotG are bashing through the elemental planes in route to the plane of time, realistically the likelihood of that is slim. However, if we can keep the high quality folks we have, and add a few along the way, it is highly possible and probable that we could get into the elemental planes. We can also focus on SS and LDoN armors which beats almost everything up to PoTime armor.
I have only ever been a member of two guild in almost 4 years of playing EQ, KotG here on TP and Adamantium Kinship on MM. Both guilds shared a comon theme of family and working together, I hope that this family can continue to grow and evolve with the same dedication and commitment it has in it's past. I have said it befoe and say it again, I will be a Keeper till they pry my flag from my cold dead fingers.... 
Well said Heiro......well said.
actually i have ornamental stuff and id say the ldon stuff is better than it especially when u add the augments too it.
I guess my point here is that we should focus on organizing groups of Keepers to do these on a regular if not daily basis. The loot that drops, the Adventure points and xp gained doing hard LDoN's is hard to beat. Over the last few weeks I have been able to form groups with a Keeper core of 2 to 4 folks, but as luck has it, often the non keeper member of the group wins the /ran where as if all are Keepers we all win.... I guess the key here is to communicate what you are doing and when. I need at least 3 more wins in North Ro to get my lvl 55 spell Austerity(Same effects as Temperance), also I need to accumulate about 50 more there is order to obtain the 1450 BP level, I am about tired of MM, however I am quite familiar with the dungeons, so if folks just HAVE to go there I am willing. I would like a few more Rujarken Hills and Miragul ones.
I play a little in the morning and a little at night, 9-11am(CST), and a little more at night 6-10pm(CST).Other than LDoN willing to go planes, Keal for faction, WL for corrupted and shawl drops, and open to sugestions.
I like your ideas =) I get scared of Hard LDoNs though, haven't had much luck, except with my chanter in her 30s =)
Places like UP, Sol C, Chardok B, Veksar, etc. etc. etc. all need to be done as well---good drops in these zones, and good exp too. And, perhaps, even some luclin shard camps...
bah! I have to say, because of the effects on some of the ornates, I'd take most of them over the high end LDoN AP stuff. Not all of it though. Personally, my plan is to have a mix of each. I really eventually want a Ornate druid BP. Its really my dream. If I can't get that, then a Skyshrine druid BP lol. I just want the regen clicky soooooooooo much. More than my epic is how much I want it hehe, with, the ornate. Not the sky. The sky would be almost as much hehe.
If folks want ornate, go to allakhazam, and find which mobs drop the pieces you want and get a group there. Most pieces drop in at least 2 different zones, usually Bot and Tactics. Bot is heavily camped, but since Tactics still requires a flag, it is not camped as much. In BoT, the South wing seems to be the most camped.
LDON was the best thing and the worst thing to happen to small guilds.
it allowed just about anyone to get some nice gear. but in return why bother doing a raid for gear when i can get better in LDON. i mean forget that somoen needs to do their epic or help on a quest.
i have even been guilty of missing a raid to do LDON. but that doesnt happen often.
and uunlike non LDON groups you cannot up and leave at any time to go on a raid its not fiar or right to leave a group in LDON behind in the middle. this has not effected our planned raids mostly just our spur of the moment ones.
/shrug anyhow just what i think of it all
i agree with that all iane =)=
At least with GoD's instanced zones, there's no points or AP involved, so that should make it a little bit better. And, I think it'll die down LDoN till the point its very hard to get a group, and we'll be needing to have LDoN nights just to field one!
I dont know Iane, I guess I see your point. I try hard to make planned events, if nothing is going on I try to form a group and am getting a good reputation for successful LDoN groups, and 3 leadership points so far as a result. Also, when I semi retired from the Keepers I had been halfway through 52 with no AA's.At that time I had to solo Bloodgills most of the time due to no one thinking pallies were good enough to group with. Since I have returned in late December I have 3AA's, and am over halfway to 61 with again 3 leadership points. Poeple actually want paladins now and I love the LDoNs, due to my schedule and inability to play over long stretches except on the weekends, and then again I have to make sure it dosnt PO the wife too much, she has her limits, and when I get on an EQ binge she gets tired of it quick. As far as spur of the moment raids, my oppinion Keepers have never been great at them. Now if we had a raid night but not a defined target that would be deferent, folks would be gathered in a spot waiting for a target and not looking for things to do.Before LDoN there would have been little to no way we would have access to a 69 AC brestplate for under like 150kpp, considering I have never seen more than 12kpp at one time(and that on my bard) the likelihood of me getting such a BP would be slim. I have over 800 AP after buying my lvl 55 Austerity spell, so my next goal is to collect enough Nro for my BP. I really can not see a downside. I always ask if anyone wants to join me in guild, and post trying to coordinnate times because I would rether have guildmates than others getting the nice loot drops. I frquently group with Sebak and Blundite and love to have at least a few Keepers in the party.
Even though we were unsuccessful on our first try Heir, I had sooo much fun that night we tried the hard LDoN =) And the exp was uber. So, if you wanted to group, even if it were hard, I'd come not really caring about points and just mostly for the exp and fun.
